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Hoxe viaxamos a Melide, un municipio de 8.000 habitantes no corazón de Galicia,

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onde dous camiños de Santiago se cruzan dende hai séculos.

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Pero esta vez non falamos de peregrinación, senón de outra forma de encontro,

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o Es Libre, o Congreso de Cultura e Tecnoloxías Libres.

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Es Libre é un evento itinerante que se organiza este ano pola Melisa,

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a Asociación de Usuarios de Software Libre da Terra de Melide, e por Galpón,

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o grupo de amigos de GNU/Linux de Pontevedra.

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Un congreso que non teña nada que ver co que imaginas,

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cando escoitas a palabra congreso.

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Non hai traxes, non hai podios, non hai prezos de inscricións desorbitados,

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hai charlas, talleres, comidas compartidas e conversas que comezan nun corredor

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e rematan horas despois nunha cafetería.

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Para falarmos de Melisa,

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para nos falar disto, hoxe, temos connosco a un dos organizadores,

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Rafael Rodríguez Galloso.

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Ola, Rafa.

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Ola, Bodiá.

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Preséntate brevemente para quen non te coñeza.

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Pois eu son Rafa Galloso, son enxeñeiro informático de profesión e voluntario de devoción.

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Son membro da Asociación Melisa, que ten a súa sede e iniciou a súa andaina en Melide.

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Bueno, iso, formo parte do grupo de voluntariado,

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que levamos a cabo diferentes actividades e, en concreto, este ano,

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levamos a cabo a organización do Congreso Es Libre.

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Melide, coñecida polo Polbo, polo Camiño de Santiago,

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e por ser o encontro de dúas rutas centenarias.

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Agora tamén vai ser coñecida por ter acollido o Es Libre.

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Que ten Melide que non teñen outras cidades máis grandes?

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Melide, sí, é unha vila, bueno, en tamaño, en poboación é pequena,

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pero os que coñecen Melide, os que nacimos, nos criamos en Melide,

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sabemos que é un pobo moi dinámico.

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Ten moita actividade comercial, ten moita actividade diaria,

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actividade de ocio, e ten todos os servizos necesarios para acoller un Congreso.

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É dicir, o feito de que nos últimos anos medrara tamén moito

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a existencia de turistas e de peregrinos que fan o Camiño de Santiago,

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tamén leva a que haxa moita oferta de aloxamento,

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oferta para xantar, para comer, en fin,

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todo isto dá unha idea de que hai que coñecer Melide,

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hai que vir para saber que a mellor perspectiva ou a idea que ti tiñas deste pobo,

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polo seu tamaño, pola poboación,

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non é o que ao final realmente é.

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Hai algo case simbólico en facer un Congreso de Cultura Libre

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nun municipio de oito mil habitantes.

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Dende fora parece que a Tecnoloxía Libre sempre se asocia a grandes urbes.

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Estades rompendo ese prexuízo de forma consciente?

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Sí, sí, sí, desde o primeiro momento en que xurdiu a idea,

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que hai que dicir que foi a proposta de Galpón,

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un membro de Galpón, Miguel Bozada, que na última edición do Es Libre en Valencia

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nos dixo aos membros de Melisa, bueno, e por que non?

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A seguinte edición do Es Libre en Melide.

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E dixen, bueno, a resposta como galego é por que non?

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Non hai nada que impida facelo nun pobo como Melide.

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Eu diría todo o contrario.

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Igual que todos os asistentes viron que era posible,

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tamén levaron esa idea de que as distancias non existen,

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é dicir, todo o que fixíamos durante eses dous días foi a pé.

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Fomos a pé a todos os sitios aos que, bueno,

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tiñamos que ir como xantar ou as actividades de ocio despois do Congreso.

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Iso fai que evidentemente teña moitas comodidades,

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para que todo o mundo se sinta moi cómodo

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cando ven a Melide a un Congreso que tamén é unha certa novidade,

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é dicir, tampouco é un pobo no que se realicen este tipo de congresos,

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é dicir, deste tipo nin de outros.

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É dicir, non, como decías, isto é o máis normal,

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é porque tamén, porque a poboación é maioritaria,

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que se fai en grandes vilas ou grandes cidades.

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Porque onde está, bueno, onde está a xente,

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onde están outro tipo de asociacións,

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onde están as grandes empresas que poden axudar con patrocinio, etc.

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Pero, bueno, que...

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Que...

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Que sí que rompemos, a mellor, un esquema preconcebido

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e que nos alegramos de que así fora, claro.

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O Concello de Melide apoiou o evento.

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Como foi esa negociación?

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É fácil convencer a Administración local

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de que financiar o software libre ten sentido?

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Bueno, debemos dicir que evidentemente

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a axuda e a colaboración co Concello de Melide neste caso,

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como Administración Pública de primeira man,

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máis próxima, máis próxima a nós e ao pobo de Melide,

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foi total.

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É dicir, no sentido de que todo o que se...

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que se pediu, en primeiro lugar,

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foron as instalacións.

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As instalacións nas que se levaron a cabo todas as actividades,

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as charlas, os talleres,

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a zona de descanso,

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onde houbo, pois, unha zona de café,

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de expositores, etc.

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Todo iso son instalacións públicas,

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instalacións municipais que foron cedidas

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sen ningún tipo de problema.

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E incluso máis alá, é dicir,

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cando houbo que facer instalación,

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a instalación logística que levou, pois,

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a colocación de lonas,

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o movemento de mesas, cadeiras,

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etcétera,

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sempre tivamos a nosa disposición

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aos traballadores municipais.

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A Radio Melide tamén colaborou con nós

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para apoiar a difusión,

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que tamén son empregados municipais.

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Ou sexa que, bueno, neste caso,

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a Administración Pública, bueno,

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non podía ser doutra forma,

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pero, bueno, a veces, pois,

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non están ao nivel que se esixe

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ou que nos pedimos para que todo vaia ben,

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pero neste caso,

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podemos dicir que si,

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que o Concello de Melide

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se portou moi ben coa organización.

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Organizar un congreso de forma voluntaria

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sen estrutura profesional

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implica moito traballo

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invisible.

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Que é o que a xente de fora non ve

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e que máis esforzo custa?

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Bueno, efectivamente,

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calquera tipo de actividade, non,

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que teñas que organizar, pois,

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moita información, moita logística,

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falar con provedores,

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resolver dúbidas,

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recibir todas as propostas,

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organizalas,

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facer o programa,

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bueno, todo iso é un traballo,

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é un traballo constante.

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Non é un traballo, digamos,

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a ver, non sei como decilo,

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como definilo,

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pero non é un traballo duro,

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non é un traballo, pero sí, constante.

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Nós, en colaboración

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con Galpón,

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comezamos coas labores

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de organización

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ou de reserva de espazos

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no mes de agosto,

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de agosto do ano de 2025,

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é dicir,

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case, case un ano antes.

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De feito, bueno,

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antes do verán,

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tamén xa tiñamos aprobadas

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as axudas por parte da Amtega,

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que financiou gran parte deste congreso,

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pero todo iso se fai con tempo

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e con certa, bueno,

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distribución de tarefas,

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pois, por exemplo,

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como Galpón xa tiña experiencia

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de organizar este congreso

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en Vigo no ano de 2022,

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pois,

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tamén axudaron moito

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en toda a parte da web,

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actualización de contidos,

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actualización dos mapas

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para ubicar,

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pois,

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se deron diferentes servizos

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todo iso

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foi un traballo colaborativo

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e, bueno,

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despois é certo que

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o último mes,

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últimos dous meses,

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é onde máis se concentra a actividade,

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porque xa empezas a,

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a ter as datas encima, non?

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Tes as datas encima,

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tes que resolver, bueno,

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pois,

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todas as cuestións logísticas

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de, neste caso,

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pois, mira,

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reservas de espazos para comer,

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fixamos unha cena

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de comunidade

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o venres á noite,

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entón,

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esas cousas hai que negocialas,

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hai que prevelas,

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hai que traballar con datas,

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con imprevistos,

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pero máis que un traballo duro,

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porque todo o traballo

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que se fai é voluntario,

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debo dicir que o voluntariado

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se fai con moito gusto,

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con moito ánimo,

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e con moita paixón a veces,

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sempre que se faga

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con planificación

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e con tempo,

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todo isto xa é así.

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E co apoio de máis de 20 voluntarios

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que tiveron que facer isto.

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E, efectivamente,

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claro,

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claro que aquí hai moita xente,

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xente detrás,

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é dicir,

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moita xente.

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De feito,

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estes 26 voluntarios

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traballaron arreo durante,

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non son dous días,

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porque hai máis,

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porque moitos deles

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xa viñeron o mércores,

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é dicir,

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dous días antes do venres,

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que é cando empezou

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o Congreso,

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para axudar a montar todo

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durante,

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pois é,

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xa case dous días,

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dous días antes,

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non?

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E despois tamén

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hai que quedarse para desmontar,

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é dicir,

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non o Congreso,

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son dous días

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que é cando é actividade central

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e todos os asistentes

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desfrutan,

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desfrutan deles

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destas actividades,

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senón que

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hai que montar previamente,

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hai que desmontar,

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bueno,

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efectivamente,

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ver a un grupo de persoas

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coordinadas e sincronizadas

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que están para o que faga falta,

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incluso para resolver

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ese imprevisto

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de última hora,

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vamos,

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é unha satisfacción

252
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moi grande por parte de Melisa

253
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como entidade anfitriona.

254
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Cando falades de cultura libre,

255
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non vos limitades ao código,

256
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pero para moita xente

257
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iso é un pouco abstracto.

258
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Como explicarías

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nunha cea familiar

260
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sen usar ningunha palabra técnica

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por que importa

262
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que a cultura sexa libre?

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Claro,

264
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bueno,

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a cultura,

266
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efectivamente,

267
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non somos

268
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unha asociación

269
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de software libre,

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pero dende hai uns anos

271
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dimos nos conta

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que, bueno,

273
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non estamos pechados

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neste mundo tecnolóxico

275
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que, certo,

276
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que a mellor socialmente

277
00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,840
nos ven un pouco illados

278
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por que somos

279
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os que estamos

280
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detrás das máquinas,

281
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falamos unhas linguaxes

282
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nuns termos

283
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que non se entenden.

284
00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,880
O concepto de software libre

285
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entendo que pode ser

286
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doado de entender

287
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porque falta

288
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falar de liberdades,

289
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pero, bueno,

290
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despois empezamos

291
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a ter xa

292
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conceptos

293
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máis técnicos

294
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que sí que nos limitan

295
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un pouco

296
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ao chegar

297
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ao público en xeral.

298
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Entón,

299
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o concepto de cultura libre

300
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vai máis alá,

301
00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:51,720
vai como unha,

302
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digamos,

303
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como unha filosofía de vida,

304
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como entender

305
00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:55,760
que aquelas tarefas

306
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que nos facemos

307
00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,260
na nosa vida,

308
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na nosa vida social,

309
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non en termos culturais,

310
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deben ser compartidos.

311
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É dicir,

312
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entendemos que

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a maior parte

314
00:09:05,260 --> 00:09:06,700
do coñecemento

315
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que obtemos

316
00:09:07,780 --> 00:09:08,860
e que desfrutamos

317
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é compartido

318
00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,480
por outras persoas,

319
00:09:10,660 --> 00:09:11,140
outras persoas

320
00:09:11,140 --> 00:09:11,840
que nos precederon,

321
00:09:12,060 --> 00:09:12,260
é dicir,

322
00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:13,880
nosos antepasados

323
00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:14,880
compartiron connosco

324
00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:15,500
moitas cousas,

325
00:09:15,580 --> 00:09:16,280
e así debemos

326
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facelo nós,

327
00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,060
é dicir,

328
00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,340
todos eses coñecementos,

329
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esas prácticas,

330
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esas experiencias,

331
00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,100
entendemos que debe ser

332
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compartida

333
00:09:21,740 --> 00:09:23,000
en todos os ámbitos,

334
00:09:23,180 --> 00:09:24,300
porque non falamos

335
00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:24,980
só de

336
00:09:24,980 --> 00:09:26,200
iso de tecnoloxía,

337
00:09:26,380 --> 00:09:27,120
falamos a mellor,

338
00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:28,400
non sei,

339
00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,820
de sistemas de rega

340
00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:30,520
para unha horta,

341
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é dicir,

342
00:09:30,980 --> 00:09:31,520
cousas que,

343
00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,020
non,

344
00:09:32,180 --> 00:09:33,280
como algo tan natural,

345
00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:33,480
non,

346
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,320
que en Galicia

347
00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,200
compartimos moito,

348
00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:35,660
pois a mellor

349
00:09:35,660 --> 00:09:36,100
que un veciño

350
00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:36,600
che explica

351
00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,220
como facer medrar

352
00:09:38,220 --> 00:09:39,520
máis os teus tomates

353
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,520
ou calquera,

354
00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:41,880
non sei,

355
00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,840
praga que teñas,

356
00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,140
pois que poidas

357
00:09:44,140 --> 00:09:44,660
combatila

358
00:09:44,660 --> 00:09:45,760
con métodos

359
00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,500
o máis ecológicos

360
00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:48,000
posibles,

361
00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:48,580
todo iso é,

362
00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:49,340
é compartir,

363
00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:50,360
é algo natural

364
00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,820
que tentamos

365
00:09:51,820 --> 00:09:52,600
que non se perda,

366
00:09:52,780 --> 00:09:53,420
que non se perda

367
00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:54,500
e fomentar iso.

368
00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:55,180
As licenzas

369
00:09:55,180 --> 00:09:56,080
Creative Commons

370
00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:56,960
ou Copyleft

371
00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,820
ou Wikipedia

372
00:09:57,820 --> 00:09:59,460
son parte do mesmo ecosistema,

373
00:09:59,620 --> 00:10:00,880
pero parecen mundos separados.

374
00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:01,880
En Es Libre

375
00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,160
búscase esa converxencia

376
00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,260
entre tecnoloxía libre,

377
00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:04,860
cultura libre

378
00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:05,760
e coñecemento aberto.

379
00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:06,580
Si, si,

380
00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,500
o Es Libre

381
00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:08,280
acolle todo,

382
00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:09,960
as diferentes comunidades,

383
00:10:10,220 --> 00:10:10,740
que é un termo

384
00:10:10,740 --> 00:10:11,580
que nos gusta

385
00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:12,160
empregar moito,

386
00:10:12,420 --> 00:10:13,080
a todos aqueles

387
00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,500
que comparten

388
00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:15,300
esta filosofía,

389
00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,620
esta cultura libre

390
00:10:16,620 --> 00:10:17,520
da que falamos,

391
00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,040
é dicir,

392
00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:18,680
as licenzas

393
00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:19,460
Creative Commons

394
00:10:19,460 --> 00:10:20,760
son moi empregadas,

395
00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:21,580
son moi transversais,

396
00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:23,080
incluso nos ecos libres

397
00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:23,680
tamén se poden

398
00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:24,300
chegar a utilizar,

399
00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:25,120
son,

400
00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:25,900
creo que,

401
00:10:26,540 --> 00:10:27,160
socialmente,

402
00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:27,820
deben estar xa

403
00:10:27,820 --> 00:10:28,900
bastante recoñecidas,

404
00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,240
porque,

405
00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:29,920
por exemplo,

406
00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:30,420
a Wikipedia

407
00:10:30,420 --> 00:10:31,480
ou OpenStreetMap

408
00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:31,900
utiliza,

409
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,720
que son aplicacións

410
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:34,080
de uso,

411
00:10:34,540 --> 00:10:34,780
creo que,

412
00:10:34,820 --> 00:10:35,160
masivo,

413
00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:36,180
por calquera persoa,

414
00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,040
é que debe fixarse,

415
00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:37,820
debe fixarse

416
00:10:37,820 --> 00:10:38,660
en que iso non está aí

417
00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:39,180
porque alguén

418
00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:40,440
o puxo,

419
00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:40,940
bueno,

420
00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:41,640
digamos,

421
00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:42,980
sen nada a cambio,

422
00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:43,900
senón que é unha licenza

423
00:10:43,900 --> 00:10:44,440
que permite

424
00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:45,380
que desfrutemos

425
00:10:45,380 --> 00:10:46,060
deses contidos.

426
00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,100
Hai un momento

427
00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:48,080
no que o Libre

428
00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:48,660
deixa de ser

429
00:10:48,660 --> 00:10:49,540
só técnico

430
00:10:49,540 --> 00:10:50,440
e se converte

431
00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,320
nun tema político

432
00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:51,960
ou ético.

433
00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:52,920
Como vive

434
00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,800
nese paso

435
00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:54,380
as persoas

436
00:10:54,380 --> 00:10:55,440
que chegan ao movemento

437
00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,680
desde a programación pura?

438
00:10:56,980 --> 00:10:57,320
É claro,

439
00:10:57,460 --> 00:10:57,940
é un cambio

440
00:10:57,940 --> 00:10:59,480
de concepto importante

441
00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,280
que tens que asumir,

442
00:11:00,380 --> 00:11:00,960
que tens que

443
00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,480
integrar dentro

444
00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,460
da túa forma

445
00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:04,920
de traballar,

446
00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,060
non?

447
00:11:05,340 --> 00:11:05,880
Parece que

448
00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,160
acostumas

449
00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,120
o teu hábito

450
00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,140
ata o momento

451
00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:11,160
en que ves

452
00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:11,940
que hai formas

453
00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:12,500
de compartir

454
00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:13,380
ou de desfrutar

455
00:11:13,380 --> 00:11:13,760
a tecnoloxía

456
00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,440
dunha forma diferente,

457
00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:15,480
todo é privativo,

458
00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:15,660
non?

459
00:11:15,660 --> 00:11:17,120
Como que te acostumas

460
00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,620
ou naces

461
00:11:17,620 --> 00:11:18,480
nun mundo privativo

462
00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:18,660
e,

463
00:11:18,660 --> 00:11:19,160
e despois,

464
00:11:19,620 --> 00:11:20,420
como que ves a luz,

465
00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,680
recibes unha epifanía

466
00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:21,840
e dices,

467
00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:22,200
ostras,

468
00:11:22,340 --> 00:11:23,020
pero aquí hai cousas

469
00:11:23,020 --> 00:11:24,620
que eu podo recoller,

470
00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:25,380
que eu podo compartir,

471
00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,140
que eu podo desfrutar,

472
00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:26,980
que eu podo mellorar.

473
00:11:27,180 --> 00:11:28,040
É un cambio radical,

474
00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,000
un cambio radical

475
00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,640
na forma de traballar,

476
00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,960
na forma de relacionarte

477
00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:32,680
incluso con outros

478
00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:33,560
membros da comunidade.

479
00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,040
É un cambio brutal,

480
00:11:35,140 --> 00:11:35,280
vamos,

481
00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,480
que animo a calquera persoa

482
00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,820
que non experimentara,

483
00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:38,300
que se anime,

484
00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:39,460
que vai ser ben acollido

485
00:11:39,460 --> 00:11:40,760
e a desfrutar entre todos.

486
00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,380
Os congresos de Tecnoloxía

487
00:11:42,380 --> 00:11:43,100
adoitan ser

488
00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:43,880
moi formais.

489
00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:44,760
Gravatas,

490
00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,300
traxes,

491
00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:45,860
charlas,

492
00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,380
preguntas,

493
00:11:46,620 --> 00:11:47,240
aplausos,

494
00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,060
vos tendes comidas compartidas,

495
00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,160
espazos informais,

496
00:11:50,300 --> 00:11:51,180
talleres para nenos,

497
00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:52,880
os espazos de convivencia

498
00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,060
parecen tan importantes

499
00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:55,080
como as propias charlas.

500
00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:56,140
Estais dicindo

501
00:11:56,140 --> 00:11:57,320
que o networking informal

502
00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,640
vale máis que as presentacións?

503
00:11:58,940 --> 00:11:59,740
Todo é importante,

504
00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,320
pero,

505
00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:01,500
efectivamente,

506
00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:02,180
nos non queremos

507
00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:03,360
que este congreso

508
00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,000
se de algo,

509
00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,920
por algo se caracteriza

510
00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,160
en edicións anteriores,

511
00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:07,680
e nós,

512
00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,500
creo que fixemos

513
00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:09,420
un esforzo adicional

514
00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:10,200
para que fora,

515
00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:11,140
algo máis que

516
00:12:11,140 --> 00:12:12,200
asistir as charlas.

517
00:12:12,660 --> 00:12:12,920
É dicir,

518
00:12:13,020 --> 00:12:14,160
no momento en que ti,

519
00:12:14,380 --> 00:12:14,540
bueno,

520
00:12:14,660 --> 00:12:15,080
evidentemente,

521
00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:15,800
o núcleo central

522
00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:16,960
de contido son as charlas,

523
00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,220
pero,

524
00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:17,740
talleres,

525
00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:18,920
salas,

526
00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:19,340
etcétera,

527
00:12:19,380 --> 00:12:20,220
o tipo de contidos,

528
00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:21,440
que son de gran interese,

529
00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:21,700
é dicir,

530
00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,320
é o núcleo.

531
00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,880
Pero que fas unha vez que rematan

532
00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,240
ou que hai que descansar?

533
00:12:25,340 --> 00:12:25,560
É dicir,

534
00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:27,340
hai que descansar a media mañá

535
00:12:27,340 --> 00:12:27,840
ou a media tarde

536
00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,380
para tomarte unha froita

537
00:12:29,380 --> 00:12:29,800
ou un café

538
00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,620
ou o que te apeteza

539
00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:32,480
ou estirar as pernas.

540
00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:33,420
É aproveitar

541
00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:34,580
a capacidade que temos,

542
00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:34,920
as persoas,

543
00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,640
de relacionarnos.

544
00:12:36,060 --> 00:12:36,260
É dicir,

545
00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,840
a capacidade que, a mellor,

546
00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,760
tes de preguntar

547
00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:39,480
ao relator

548
00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,240
calquera cousa

549
00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,340
e irte á mesa

550
00:12:41,340 --> 00:12:41,980
de expositores

551
00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:42,320
a falar,

552
00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:42,580
pois,

553
00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,240
con esa persoa

554
00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:43,780
que está alí

555
00:12:43,780 --> 00:12:44,420
promocionando

556
00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,140
coa xente que está

557
00:12:48,140 --> 00:12:48,580
por alí

558
00:12:48,580 --> 00:12:49,760
ao teu arredor.

559
00:12:50,060 --> 00:12:50,620
As comidas

560
00:12:50,620 --> 00:12:51,580
que se organizaron

561
00:12:51,580 --> 00:12:52,200
tamén eran

562
00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,260
para que todo o mundo

563
00:12:53,260 --> 00:12:54,460
se relacionara con todo o mundo.

564
00:12:55,140 --> 00:12:55,620
Intencionadamente

565
00:12:55,620 --> 00:12:56,760
se fan as comidas

566
00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,360
nas que, evidentemente,

567
00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,400
non son en mesas

568
00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,620
non hai cadeiras,

569
00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:00,380
todo é de pé,

570
00:13:00,620 --> 00:13:01,440
fomentando esa

571
00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,580
interrelación.

572
00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,720
Tamén se organizou

573
00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,740
esa cea de comunidade

574
00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:05,280
que falaba

575
00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,000
ao principio

576
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,940
na que

577
00:13:06,940 --> 00:13:07,840
voluntariamente

578
00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,840
a xente asistía

579
00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,500
e na que

580
00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:10,620
volvemos a

581
00:13:10,620 --> 00:13:12,140
fomentar a relación.

582
00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,480
E foi,

583
00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,180
creo que,

584
00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:15,100
desde o punto de vista

585
00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:15,940
de observador,

586
00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,220
calquera persoa

587
00:13:17,220 --> 00:13:18,180
que asistira

588
00:13:18,180 --> 00:13:19,240
e se quedara mirando

589
00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,400
como se desenvolvían

590
00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,660
as persoas

591
00:13:22,660 --> 00:13:24,520
despois das charlas,

592
00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:25,240
era todo o mundo

593
00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,040
falando con todo o mundo.

594
00:13:26,340 --> 00:13:26,480
Pero,

595
00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,480
íbamos andando

596
00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,780
cara ao restaurante

597
00:13:28,780 --> 00:13:29,240
e xente todo

598
00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,320
falando en grupos.

599
00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,380
Na cena,

600
00:13:31,540 --> 00:13:31,760
igual,

601
00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:32,140
é dicir,

602
00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,200
incluso vías a unha persoa

603
00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:33,980
que estaba nunha mesa

604
00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:34,860
pois se cambiaba para outra.

605
00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:35,540
Como que había

606
00:13:35,540 --> 00:13:36,280
moita relación

607
00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:36,820
e moitas ganas

608
00:13:36,820 --> 00:13:37,460
de compartir

609
00:13:37,460 --> 00:13:38,400
o coñecemento

610
00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:38,880
entre todos.

611
00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,480
Comparado con outras

612
00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,640
comunidades lingüísticas

613
00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,320
minorizadas,

614
00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,140
o galego está

615
00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:44,060
mellor ou peor

616
00:13:44,060 --> 00:13:44,640
representado

617
00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,740
no mundo do software libre?

618
00:13:46,220 --> 00:13:46,900
Non sei

619
00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:47,840
se teño

620
00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,720
o coñecemento total

621
00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,900
para contestar,

622
00:13:50,060 --> 00:13:51,040
pero creo que

623
00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,780
grazas ao voluntariado

624
00:13:52,780 --> 00:13:54,280
e ao colectivo

625
00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:54,720
Trasno,

626
00:13:54,980 --> 00:13:55,700
hai unha

627
00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:56,680
tamén unha labor

628
00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,220
inmensa detrás

629
00:13:58,220 --> 00:13:59,840
da tradución

630
00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:00,680
e da localización

631
00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:01,040
do software

632
00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,600
libre ao galego.

633
00:14:01,820 --> 00:14:02,400
Podería estar mellor,

634
00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:02,760
pois claro,

635
00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:03,800
claro que podería estar mellor,

636
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,200
pero tamén

637
00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:05,800
é un traballo

638
00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,260
que se leva

639
00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:08,040
facendo dende fai tempo,

640
00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,960
de forma constante.

641
00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,220
Hai aplicativos

642
00:14:10,220 --> 00:14:11,000
e software

643
00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:11,640
maioritario

644
00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,820
que está traducido

645
00:14:12,820 --> 00:14:13,440
ao 100%

646
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,720
e vais actualizando.

647
00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:15,180
Eu,

648
00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,240
personalmente,

649
00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:16,620
a situación

650
00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:17,220
creo que é boa,

651
00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:18,540
pero non hai que descansar

652
00:14:18,540 --> 00:14:19,160
e hai que seguir

653
00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:19,760
traballando

654
00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,740
a prol da localización

655
00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:23,200
e da posta á disposición

656
00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:23,980
dos usuarios

657
00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:25,360
e dos falantes

658
00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:25,860
do galego

659
00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:26,820
de todo o software libre

660
00:14:26,820 --> 00:14:27,680
que sexa posible.

661
00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:28,980
Se dentro de 10 anos

662
00:14:28,980 --> 00:14:29,660
alguén mira para

663
00:14:29,660 --> 00:14:30,720
Es Libre 2026,

664
00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:31,620
que che gustaría

665
00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:32,700
que recordaran dela?

666
00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:33,440
Pois,

667
00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:34,500
gustaríame que recordaran

668
00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:35,000
un evento

669
00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:35,640
que se fixou

670
00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:36,620
con moito cariño,

671
00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,620
con moita paixón,

672
00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:39,600
con moito coidado

673
00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,260
dos detalles,

674
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,260
cun enfoque,

675
00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,060
evidentemente,

676
00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:43,740
sabendo

677
00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:44,480
onde estamos,

678
00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,280
de onde vimos,

679
00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,100
cun enfoque

680
00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:46,380
e cun

681
00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:46,600
a

682
00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:47,640
plantexamento

683
00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,760
cara ao territorio.

684
00:14:48,860 --> 00:14:49,560
Foi un evento

685
00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,700
que ten unha base tecnolóxica,

686
00:14:52,340 --> 00:14:53,320
ten unha base de comunidade,

687
00:14:53,660 --> 00:14:54,080
pero

688
00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,600
dentro de Melisa

689
00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,340
non nos esquecemos

690
00:14:56,340 --> 00:14:56,940
onde estamos.

691
00:14:57,260 --> 00:14:57,400
É dicir,

692
00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,980
aí fixemos

693
00:14:58,980 --> 00:14:59,560
fincapé

694
00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,660
no produto local,

695
00:15:01,340 --> 00:15:02,020
o acto de apertura

696
00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:02,800
fixo Lucía Casal

697
00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,460
que é unha gandeira

698
00:15:03,460 --> 00:15:04,360
moi nova de Melide.

699
00:15:04,740 --> 00:15:04,980
É dicir,

700
00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,020
houbo moitos elementos

701
00:15:06,020 --> 00:15:07,680
que eu creo que a xente recordará

702
00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,960
como especiais

703
00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,500
por terse celebrado en Melide

704
00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:11,220
e porque

705
00:15:11,220 --> 00:15:12,380
estiveron á vista,

706
00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,260
estiveron á vista

707
00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:13,920
todas esas

708
00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,280
formas de vida

709
00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,320
que nos rodean,

710
00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:17,540
é que nós tamén somos,

711
00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,420
estamos orgullosos

712
00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:20,060
de participar nelas.

713
00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:21,460
Para ir rematando,

714
00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:22,640
é algo que che gustaría

715
00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,040
que alguén vos preguntase

716
00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:24,720
e que nunca

717
00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,460
ninguén pregunta.

718
00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:26,660
Que nos preguntaran

719
00:15:26,660 --> 00:15:27,380
como participar,

720
00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:29,040
como colaborar

721
00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:29,860
con Galpón e Melisa.

722
00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,040
É a pregunta

723
00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:31,540
que nos gustaría

724
00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:32,240
que temos que

725
00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,180
conseguir

726
00:15:33,180 --> 00:15:34,060
que isto siga,

727
00:15:34,180 --> 00:15:34,380
é dicir,

728
00:15:34,660 --> 00:15:35,920
temos un grupo activo

729
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,540
pero que podemos

730
00:15:36,540 --> 00:15:36,720
seguir,

731
00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,280
podemos ser máis.

732
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,600
Que catro consellos

733
00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,240
darías para

734
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,280
a xente que

735
00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,580
se poña a organizar

736
00:15:42,580 --> 00:15:43,140
a do ano que vén?

737
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,380
Pois que empecen

738
00:15:44,380 --> 00:15:44,880
canto antes.

739
00:15:45,260 --> 00:15:45,500
Primeiro,

740
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,480
que empecen canto antes,

741
00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:47,640
non sei se algunha

742
00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,920
entidade ou comunidade

743
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,060
está pensando niso,

744
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:50,380
pero

745
00:15:50,380 --> 00:15:52,100
estamos en xuño,

746
00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:53,000
o verán

747
00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:53,960
pasa enseguida,

748
00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:54,560
nos poñemos

749
00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,700
en setembro ou outubro,

750
00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,280
despois tamén empezan

751
00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,080
tamén unha época

752
00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:57,780
de congresos

753
00:15:57,780 --> 00:15:58,920
que adoitan

754
00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,240
xuntarse moitos

755
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:00,960
ao final de ano.

756
00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:02,200
En canto

757
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,940
te descoidas,

758
00:16:03,060 --> 00:16:03,620
estás en

759
00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:04,380
2027.

760
00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:05,600
Que empecen

761
00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,260
canto antes,

762
00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,400
evidentemente que busquen

763
00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,460
todos os apoios posibles,

764
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,700
porque tamén leva tempo,

765
00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,780
pois buscar

766
00:16:10,780 --> 00:16:11,420
apoios,

767
00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,420
buscar colaboradores,

768
00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:13,540
buscar patrocinadores,

769
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:14,960
delegar

770
00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,200
todas as actividades

771
00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:16,500
e

772
00:16:16,620 --> 00:16:17,900
funcións que poidan,

773
00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:19,060
e que

774
00:16:19,060 --> 00:16:20,000
tamén fan falta

775
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,020
moita xente,

776
00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:22,400
máis alá das que sí

777
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:22,800
fan falta

778
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,900
para a execución final

779
00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,160
durante ese último mes,

780
00:16:25,420 --> 00:16:26,720
a min durante a etapa inicial

781
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,460
con dúas,

782
00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:27,640
tres,

783
00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:27,860
catro,

784
00:16:27,940 --> 00:16:28,380
cinco persoas

785
00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:29,040
son suficientes

786
00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,840
para poñerte en marcha.

787
00:16:30,900 --> 00:16:31,740
E tamén que se apoien

788
00:16:31,740 --> 00:16:32,540
nas edicións anteriores,

789
00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,680
todo o que necesiten

790
00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,980
de Melisa

791
00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:36,320
como organizadora última,

792
00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,160
Melisa e Galpón,

793
00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:37,380
vamos,

794
00:16:37,460 --> 00:16:38,460
non me quero esquecer de Galpón,

795
00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,440
pero neste caso

796
00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,280
como membro de Melisa

797
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,000
que nos pregunten

798
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,740
tamén todo o que queiran,

799
00:16:42,020 --> 00:16:42,720
que nos axudamos

800
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,640
a dicir

801
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,500
os atrancos que tivemos,

802
00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:46,180
as melloras

803
00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:46,980
ou que se poida

804
00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:48,580
compartir con eles

805
00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:49,280
tamén gostamos

806
00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,500
de facelo de moi boa gana.

807
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,200
Pois Rafa,

808
00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:54,200
grazas por pasarte

809
00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,180
polos micros de Mancomún,

810
00:16:55,340 --> 00:16:56,380
esperamos que se sigan

811
00:16:56,380 --> 00:16:57,160
organizando eventos

812
00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:57,980
deste tipo en Galicia

813
00:16:57,980 --> 00:16:58,720
e por toda España.

814
00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,340
Pois nada,

815
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,620
grazas a vós polo traballo

816
00:17:00,620 --> 00:17:01,460
e pola oportunidade

817
00:17:01,460 --> 00:17:02,660
de compartir tamén

818
00:17:02,660 --> 00:17:03,720
esta edición de Es Libre

819
00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,940
realizada por Melisa.